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The Rose Inn (or The Royal Oak), Greenstreet

The Rose Bakery Calendar for 1926Acknowledgments: Barely recorded in official documents, this story arises principally from material supplied by Lyn Fisher (Deeds and associated documents), Trevor Cramp (who compiled two articles for the Teynham Parish News), a letter from Mrs Brightman and a Society search of local newspapers (crime reports) and census data.

This striking Calendar was shared with us by Brian Sharman who found it in the effects of Sheila Gambell, whose family have long associations with this part of Kent.

Situated on the north (Teynham) side of Greenstreet, this beer-house was a close neighbour of the Teynham Arms (now the site of Crispins fish and chip shop). In the nineteenth century, “beer-houses” were often a means of supplementing incomes (in particular for widows) using a front room in a family home, supplying beer from a barrel or two to casual trade. However, the “Rose Inn” appears also to have taken the occasional lodger but was not competing directly with the more substantial commercial inns nearby.

 

Images that include The Rose Inn

Glimpses of "The Rose Inn"
The Rose Inn - Porter sign in full view

The Rose Inn

This street-view (looking east towards Greenstreet Hill) is entirely different today. In the distance, at the corner with what is now "Station Road" you can see the "Teynham Arms". The row of cottages from the "Teynham Arms" to the "...and Porter" sign (of The Rose Inn) were also demolished and is now the site of several town-house residences.

The Queen Victoria Jubilee Pump sits on the edge of the road in the middle distance; a hint of St Stephen's Church sits on the crest of Greenstreet Hill.

The Rose Inn Frontage on the north side of Greenstreet

The Rose Inn, seen here on the right of a view down Greenstreet (looking west). Many of the buildings in this view are still in existence today.

Some time ago, the arched windows were removed in favour of larger panes of glass favoured by more modern traders to increase display space and "offers" to entice shoppers.

The old Roman Road (part of "Watling Street") steers a very straight line here.

Teynham Arms with Rose Inn in the far background We have lost all the earlier buildings from the "Teynham Arms" to the point where you can see a man standing on the pavement. That man is outside "The Rose Inn".

 

Incidental newspaper reports

To add a bit of colour, we have unearthed a couple of newspaper articles in which “The Rose Inn” was incidentally associated with two examples of crime.......Census Data for 1891 was commented on by Lyn Fisher who provided copies of the Deeds for this property.


Kentish Gazette - 19th March 1844 - Theft by Stephen Clark

KENT LENT ASSIZES. CROWN SIDE. Stephen Clark was indicted for stealing a jacket, a waistcoat, two flannel shirts, and other articles, the property of Edward Harris, at Preston next Faversham.// Edward Harris deposed that the prisoner, who is his brother-in-law, had been lodging with him, and left him on the 20th of January. The prosecutor sent in pursuit of the prisoner, whom he found at the Royal Oak beer-shop, at Greenstreet with the property in his possession. Prisoner, in defence, said that he knew nothing of the matter. Six months' imprisonment and hard labour.


Census Data: 1891 - Green Street, Teynham

“Henry Burnett, 40, general labourer & publican of “Rose Inn”, wife Mary Ann 32, son Henry J ,14, railway station clerk, James B Duncan, father-in-law, widower, 74, shoemaker + 1 lodger. In 1881 Henry was a police constable in Teynham”. (Lyn Fisher)


Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald - 3rd December 1898 - Workhouse Inquest for Charles Skinsley

INQUEST AT THE FAVERSHAM WORKHOUSE.- On Saturday last the Deputy Coroner, Mr.C.B.Harris, held an inquest in the Board Room at the Faversham Workhouse on the body of Charles Skinsley, a drover who died on the previous Wednesday under somewhat distressing circumstances.- Mr.C.Whittle was chosen foreman of the jury.- Willis Symonds, a bootmaker, residing at 41, East Street, Sittingbourne, deposed that he had known the deceased for a great many years. He was a drover and unable to do any laborious work on account of being badly ruptured. He was a native of South Ockenden, Essex, and was usually known as Charles Peace. He last saw deceased alive at Sittingbourne on the previous Saturday night, when he was in his usual health.- Henry Pilcher, landlord of the Rose Inn, Greenstreet, said that on Sunday last deceased came to his house and engaged lodgings. He was in a "mopsy" state through the effects of drink, and went to bed between seven and eight o'clock. He stayed in bed all day on Monday, and when he (witness) went to rouse him all he said was "all right". On Tuesday morning, as deceased appeared to be very unwell, witness sent for Dr.Selby, who gave him a paper to take to Mr. Porter, the Relieving Officer. He had known the deceased for 20 years, and he had always gone by the name of Charley Peace. Witness believed deceased slept out in the open air on Saturday night as he found him in the gutter in Teynham Lane about a quarter to seven on Sunday morning.- Mr. Harry T.Porter, Relieving Officer, stated that on the previous Tuesday the last witness brought him a note from Dr.Selby to the effect that a man named Charles Peace was suffering from tetanus, and that he should be removed to the Workhouse Infirmary at once. Witness procured a cab and removed the man who although unable to speak was not unconscious. - Nurse Togan, having given evidence as to receiving the deceased into the Infirmary, Dr.Gange, Medical Officer of the Workhouse, stated that on Tuesday afternoon the Master sent for him stating that a man who had just been admitted into the House was dying from tetanus. Witness found deceased in a comatose state. He could not speak or put out his tongue, and he failed to understand anything. Witness examined him and could not discern any signs of tetanus. He died at about five o'clock on Wednesday afternoon. Witness made a careful examination of the body and failed to find any bruises with the exception of a slight place on the right elbow. He had since, with the assistance of his son, made a post-mortem examination, and on opening deceased's head found the brain very much congested. On the anterior part of the brain there were two very large extravasations of blood. The actual cause of death was apoplexy or congestion of the brain, and it was no doubt accelerated by drink. He should say that the deceased was from 50 to 55 years of age. - The jury returned a verdict in accordance with the medical evidence.


Dover Express - 9th February 1906 - Licenses at Issue

FAVERSHAM. LICENSES OBJECTED TO.- The Faversham County Bench of Magistrates gave notice at their meeting on Thursday that they should object to the renewal of the following licenses: The Dolphin, Three Squirrels, and Ship ale houses at Boughton; the Swan ale house at Lynsted; the Crown ale house and Mayors Arms beer house at Ospringe; the Rose beer house at Teynham; the Scots Greys beer house at Throwley; and the beer off-licence held by Mr. Philpott at Davington.


Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald - 6th October 1906 - License Renewed

THE ROSE, GREENSTREET, TEYNHAM. In this case Mr. Roper appeared for the owners and tenant, and Mr. H. Hohler represented the Licensing Justices.
Police Sergeant Nye, of Ospringe, stated that the house was in close proximity to other licensed houses. The population of the parish was 1,839 and there were six licensed houses. The Rose was in good structural condition, but it appeared to do very little trade. In witness's opinion there were too many licensed houses in the street.
Mr. Roper called James Medhurst, who stated that at the time the licence was reported he was the tenant, but now his wife was the tenant. They took in lodgers. The trade of the house included from two to two and a half barrels a week.
Stephen George, builder and registrar of births and deaths for the district, gave the house a good character and said he thought it was necessary for the needs of the district.
James Richard Post, hairdresser, of Teynham stated that he thought the house was necessary.
The Bench granted the renewal of this licence.

[Society Note: James Post's daughter, Alice Post, is commemorated in Teynham because of her untimely death through T.N.T. poisoning during the First World War, 16th January 1916. Her death was one amongst a large number of women who suffered this fate and has been explored by the Society's WW1 Project.]


Lapsed Licence for the Rose Beerhouse

Reported by the South Eastern Gazette on 22nd February 1916: REFERRED FOR COMPENSATION. At the County Petty Sessions on Thursday (Mr. W.W. Berry presiding), the Bench decided to refer to the Compensation Authority the license of the Rose beerhouse, Greenstreet, Teynham, on the ground of redundancy. The Rose is an anti-1869 house, and has been closed since last November, the tenant, E.E.Thorpe, a Navy pensioner, having rejoined the Navy. [Visit our World War 1 Project Commemorations]